I'll be going to Urasawa next week.
www.chowhound.com/californi...09548.html
www.chowhound.com/californi...11309.html
According to other reviewers, I won't ever be able to eat sushi again.
I was also going to stop by Sushi Nozawa and Matsuhisa while I'm down there.
Anyone got more suggestions?
www.chowhound.com/californi...09548.html
www.chowhound.com/californi...11309.html
According to other reviewers, I won't ever be able to eat sushi again.
I was also going to stop by Sushi Nozawa and Matsuhisa while I'm down there.
Anyone got more suggestions?
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Re: Sushi in LA
Mon, January 3, 2005 - 2:34 PMI'm kind of pissed.
Now that I've eaten at Urasawa, nothing tastes good. I went to Nozawa the night after and the sushi tasted mediocre at best.
Didn't make it to Matsuhisa. Next month, maybe. Or maybe not. The final bill at Urusawa was $800 for two of us. I'm going to be eating ochazuke every day for the forseeable future. -
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Re: Sushi in LA
Mon, January 3, 2005 - 2:46 PMHaha, I see prices have gone up!
It was $600 for two people, omakase at Ginza Sushi-ko (Hiro's old restaurant) about 10 years ago... And it was pretty unbelievable (as it should be at those prices). -
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Mon, January 3, 2005 - 3:05 PMNope, prices have gone down! Hiro starts at $250 per person. The extra expense was tax, tip, and drink.
I drank a lot of sake. That kubota manju is some sweet shit.
We also had some uh... shin... something or other. Which was so smooth I drank too much and don't really remember the last two things I ate.
Would you happen to know if Masa's new restaurant in NYC starts at the same price as Ginza Sushi-ko?
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Mon, January 3, 2005 - 2:55 PMdude, don't be hatin' on the ochazuke.
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Mon, January 3, 2005 - 3:05 PMHa. That's because you didn't have to eat it three times a week when you were growing up. -
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Sun, January 16, 2005 - 1:30 PMif you're down in L.A., before trying Urasawa, maybe ya'll can hop down to Mori Sushi and try it out as well. Best rice in town, I'm tellin ya. Some people complain fish not that great, skimpy portions, but I have no idea what the hell they are talking about. -
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Fri, April 8, 2005 - 10:54 AMAll this talk of sushi got me fired up, so I dropped into Mori last night. It's in my hood, and I've never gotten the full treatment there - previously I had only been there for lunch. I went for the omakase with the guy in the middle, not the owner. I had their last bottle of Hitachino Nest, a Japanese ale aged in cedar casks, which was new to me. It was little strong against the sushi, but the cedar was certainly brighter than ... Sierra Nevada.
Nice quality fish, excellent rice, and fresh wasabi & yuzu. Standout items were chutoro, barely grilled, with an arugula salad, and a scallop, also barely grilled, with yuzu and sea salt, as nigiri. Also a very nice osuimono broth.
Mori is not trying to be, and not in the same league as Urasawa, but for 1.5 hours and $200, I was a happy customer. It's not a "gutbucket" type of place, so I don't feel like the portion size is relevant. In terms of overall value, I don't feel ripped off, but I do feel that they charged me for every gram of food. Dessert isn't included in the omakase, and not even a piece of fruit offered. Come on, I just spend $200 - can't you give me a couple of slices of apple or something? I'd still go back, though.
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Wed, March 16, 2005 - 2:10 PM(Don't read the first 2 paragraphs if you don't want to hear about my cheap sushi asides)
<<start of cheap sushi talk>>
Just came back from a sushi day. I started out with Echigo's $11 lunch special sushi that some people on Chowhound are totally enamoured with. WTF? They brought out one piece of sushi AT A TIME. I only got like 6 pieces total, so I guess it's to make me think i'm getting more food than I was. At the end I got a crab roll that was okay, but lots of rice, too big and kind of clumsy to eat. the nigiri was a big pad of warm rice (not bad but not stellar) topped with very thin sliver of okay but not great fish.
So I got a second lunch at Sushi Tenn on Sawtelle. I've never been here before either, so I tried the lunch special at $18, and it was actually not too bad. The fish was not zingy fresh like at say Wasabi in Tustin, but it was alright for a second lunch.
<<end of cheap sushi talk>>
For dinner, my bud and I went to Nozawa in Studio City. I was scared off this place for a long time because of the "sushi nazi" talk and the fact that he throws out unwary patrons. But then I read on Chowhound that he's really not that bad. I had omakase at the bar. The fish was great, and the rice was excellent. The toro sashimi starter was this big mound of fish on a plate and didn't look great, but tasted pretty good. Rather large portions. I have a big blabby mouth, but I had problems getting a piece down in one bite. Excellent scallops, great albacore, good anago. However, the ambiance is in the style of "diner formica". Everything is on plastic plates.
I didn't think Nozawa was nasty, just very curt and businesslike. We were in and out in about 20 minutes. My friend felt like they pushed us out. I didn't mind, as I like to eat fast, but I did get the distinct feeling that people ate and left as quickly as possible. We digested our meal outside, by chitchatting and standing around the car.
In all, for the price ($60, including tea and tax but not tip) I thought the food was excellent, and a good deal. Still for the money, I would rather go to Wasabi in Tustin. Yeah, you don't get full at Wasabi, but everything is reliably perfect there. It's almost boring. I like reliably perfect. -
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Re: Sushi in LA
Thu, March 17, 2005 - 10:52 AMRE: Echigo
I used to go here about 2 or 3 years ago when it first opened. Back then, it really did live up to the hype... perfect sized bites of warm rice and good fish for a great price and around the corner from where I lived. It was great, because by then Sasabune had gone downhill for me and Echigo was my new haunt.
I went back probably about a year ago and was sorely disappointed. I would've chalked it up to a bad day but it wasn't just the fish. Everything was off and seemed sloppy and thrown together.
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Wed, April 6, 2005 - 1:02 PMOkay so while the $11 lunch special is crap, I was just tipped off by someone I trust who said that the best ankimo in LA can be found at...Echigo. I called bullshit, but his wife said the same thing. Okay, these are people who can afford Urasawa whenever they feel like it, so I guess I have to go to Echigo now and find out for myself.
Went to Sushi Gen tonight. You have to sit in front of the old man (forget his name) to get a decent experience, but the sushi is fresh, good and actually not that expensive. Better than Sushi Nazi (Nozawa) IMHO, that everyone seems to love.
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Wed, April 6, 2005 - 9:04 PMHey, all - I'm crashing this party.
Urasawa - pretty damn near perfect, imho. Okay, we didn't get a 5 lb spiny lobster slaughtered for our consumption, but still... Shima-aji. Kohada. Tiny shrimp. Perfect anago. Tamago "genoise".
Nozawa - I actually liked this place more than j may have surmised. Really nice fish, no frills, my only quibble is that the shari (rice) is a bit too noticeably flavorful for my taste. You should know that I'm a caveman - I'm still getting used to the warm rice thing. But really good. The rushing part is true - if you sit at the bar, they move you in and out of there. After you have the first 7 or 8 things of his choosing, you can request things - but wait for him to ask. If you're looking for a more leisurely meal, like say 45 minutes - sit at a table. I wouldn't say he's rude, but definitely gruff in the inscrutible-Japanese-all business kind of way.
Echigo - feh - imho.
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Wed, April 6, 2005 - 11:33 PMHey T! Another LA homey in the house, aw yeah.
Man I keep telling everyone that I have to stop eating sushi but I seem to find myself at sushi restaurants even more. Kind of scary. No willpower.
Ankimo was lusciously soft and pretty good at Sushi Gen yesterday, despite the fact that it was the torchon thingy, instead of a natural blob from which they cut. I actually even like the cheapie hard generic ankimo though. Am I kicked off yet?
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Thu, April 7, 2005 - 1:33 AMaw, we don't kick people off of here. i just get to make fun of you next time we eat.
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Thu, April 7, 2005 - 8:55 AMI'd rather go to Kappa, actually. Ino was great, but then the guy started arguing about me asking for a couple of pieces and then asking for omakase. Okay, I'm stupid, but he could have been nicer about it. Maybe I'll go back there in a year.
I'm up there tonight until Mon. I'm up for ramen too.
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Mon, April 11, 2005 - 8:22 PMClick on the link to read a post about an intriguing place, called "Go Sushi" that supposedly is one of the best kept sushi secrets in LA. This post also mentions Sushi Sushi in Beverly Hills, but that one is pretty well known.
forums.egullet.org/index.php
Here's an excerpt if I may: "
In the Valley on the SE corner of Shoup and Sherman Way in the back corner of a strip mall is Go Sushi. The sign just says sushi and if you walked in you would think this place would be ok for some rolls to go. There is little to no ambeince but what there is are two amazing people. Chef Go and his wife who is the procurer of the fish. Friends of mine ( including Mori) have told me that she is number 2 or 3 in the pecking order at the fish market. The quality of the fish is beyond anything you will find outside of LA's top 3 or 4 sushi bars. The pace is all about food, not show, not scene, not fame. I first learned of Go from a very , very wealthy customer of mine that haas him cater his partys with 2 or 3 thousands of dollars of sushi. " -
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Tue, April 12, 2005 - 5:59 AMGo-san is an excellent chef although I haven't eaten from him in about 10-15 years. He used to be the sushi chef at Bambu in Malibu (which is now the location of Nobu). My friend worked for him for about 3 years and told me long ago and to this day insists he's the best sushi chef he's ever seen/eaten from. -
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Tue, April 12, 2005 - 10:13 AMOkay, then I guess i must Go, haha.
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Wed, April 13, 2005 - 8:18 AMI searched on the internet for this damn place, but couldn't find it no matter what I did. I tried Canoga Park, Van Nuys, etc and no results. Finally I found out the name that they list under is "Go's Mart" (WTF?) . Here is the address for those of you in the Southland. Damn these people are like in stealth mode.
Go's Mart
22330 Sherman Way # C12
Canoga Park, CA 91303
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Re: Sushi in LA
Sat, September 17, 2005 - 8:07 PMHoly moly, this place is unbelievable. Omakase for 2 w/ beer+sake = $220 w/o tip.
First off it's located in a minimall off Sherman Way (@ Shoup) in the Valley. #2, it's located between a hydroponic supply shop and a tanning salon. You walk in, and it's basically like entering a closet full of Japanese movies. Then continue down to the restaurant area and it's flourescent lights, dingy atmosphere, completely absent of any ambience...
...which is good, because the food here is impeccable. Go-san's attention to detail and fresh fish and vegetables has very few peers. His rice is perfect, we had about 5-6 courses of kobachi, then onto nigiri. If you have been to Anzu then you're probably in the same league here. Very obscure selection, everything from sharkfin ume to shishito-yaki to the male gonads of salmon (didn't get the name of this) to o-toro kama... and many more items (best miso soup I've had in a restaurant in a very long time). Awesome presentation, excellent sea salt from Normandy, including an O-macha-shio for seasoning that I could eat right out of the salt-cellar.
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Tue, September 20, 2005 - 9:57 PMYeah, this place is frigging amazing. A friend and I went and were blown away, and then I went by myself a couple of months later. I would go more if it wasn't two hours out of my way. The owner is so friendly that when I went here for the first time, I called my buddy while he was on the road, and told him I might have made a mistake. But we took a chance and thank God we did.
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Tue, September 20, 2005 - 9:58 PMNever mind my question. I didn't see the more button until now. -
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Tue, September 20, 2005 - 10:26 PMKiriko is getting a lot of attention these days. Jonathan Gold did a favorable writeup in his sushi lineup not too long ago. -
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Re: Sushi in LA
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Tue, November 1, 2005 - 4:17 PMOkay I officially suck. I'm goign to be in SF this weekend as well as in the last half of December. I won't have time to hang this weekend either, because I have a workshop to go to on Sun and flying in just for that.
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Wed, November 2, 2005 - 7:41 PMAzami Sushi Café
7160 Melrose Avenue
btwn Detroit/Formosa south side of street
Los Angeles, CA 90046
(323) 939-3816
L 12-3 Mon-Sat
D 5:45-10 Mon-Thur
D 5:45-10:30 Fri
D 5:00-10:30 Sat
On the whole, a great find! Thank you!
Fresh, tasty, moderately priced sushi.
Nice neighborhood/yin vibe (women itamae) within walking distance from my home (good thing ‘cause parking is scarce to nonexistent on/around Melrose).
Sake:
Tokusen Tamanohikari (junmai ginjyo, Kyoto)
Omakase:
1. Tuna Avo Crispies (tempura square with ceviche style tuna/avo+ tartare)
2. Hamachi carpaccio (dressed with yuzu ponzu, shishito infused oil and red peppercorns)
One piece of sushi each:
3. bluefin chutoro (lite)
4. Japanese tai w/lemon and salt
5. Japanese aji w/the usual
6. Hamachi toro
7. Hokkaido hotategai w/salt and yuzu
8. Japanese Kanpachi
9. uni
10. Kobe/Wagu Beef
11. anago
12. maitake soup
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Re: Sushi in LA- Azami
Thu, November 3, 2005 - 2:23 AMwomen itamae?
the only time i've ever seen a woman itamae was at a sushi restaurant in new orleans. it was called shogun or samurai or somesuch budo-esque name. i wonder if it's still there?
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Re: Sushi in LA- Azami
Thu, November 3, 2005 - 6:38 PMyes, women itamae.
In fact, Japanese women itamae.
And, Japanese women waitstaff.
FWIW I saw some boys moving around in the kitchen.
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Re: Sushi in LA- Azami
Thu, November 3, 2005 - 8:55 PMNice! Maybe I should check this out when I go down there. I'm not sure if I'll be able to hit up Urasawa. -
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Re: Sushi in LA- Azami
Wed, December 7, 2005 - 4:42 PMI just heard Urasawa might be raising his prices. I didn't doublecheck with the guy but I will try to go around the middle of December right after finals.
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Thu, February 2, 2006 - 12:01 AMI'm going to be in LA next weekend. Anyone want to go to Go's mart? -
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Re: Sushi in LA
Thu, February 2, 2006 - 9:49 PMDude...
I wish! I'm gonna be on the other side of the country... BUT, if you go, go on the early side to get the best 1-on-1 service. Tell him that Lou's friend from SF says "hi" if you do go.
I'd love to see the look on your face as you see and walk into the restaurant, it's pretty jarring until you start eating and you realize that yes indeed, you are in the right place.
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Mon, February 20, 2006 - 8:30 PMthat place was awesome. sushi and japanese movies on vhs!
i was breathing out truffle oil halfway through the meal though, you were right about that.
the first dish was shira ebi in an uni sauce on a bed of snow crab topped with caviar, gold flake, and truffle oil. probably one of the tastiest dishes he served. if i think hard enough i could remember the other dishes, but i'm feeling a bit lazy right now.
i did notice on the whiteboard that showed the day's offering there was an entry for "ganja."
i'm guessing that's some kind of seafood, but was secretly hoping it wasn't.
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Mon, June 12, 2006 - 12:25 PMDan, so how was Go's on Saturday? What'dya have and what was there an omigodyum moment? -
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Mon, June 12, 2006 - 2:29 PMEach visit reaffirms the greatness of it. Many OMG moments. I have pictures forthcoming...
I actually wish this forum was private so that I could share some very interesting and personal things with you guys (I'm wary of the google factor):
But yeah among the more unusual items:
Hobo (bluefin sea robin)
Hamo (pike eel)
Also a very unusual type of beef ***from Japan*** that starts with a K and ends with an E if you catch my drift... not sure of the legality of this due to the beef embargo. -
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Mon, June 12, 2006 - 7:14 PM
I’m *almost* ready to venture forth into the world again for sushi and after you last tidbit it looks as if I can no longer avoid Go’s. ;-)
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Re: Sushi in LA
Tue, June 13, 2006 - 4:05 PMThe ban on japanese beef was lifted last year. Of course, they're attempting to introduce it again. The US beef industry is way fucked up and the USDA is entirely complicit. I've been attempting to avoid eating beef ever since I found out that the reason Japan's reported incidences of BSE are higher than the ours is that the US doesn't test all their cattle (Japan is the only country in the world that does so). I think the testing was done on 1 in 100 (1 in 1000? some shocking number like that) and the USDA is planning on scaling that back even more. A black angus beef supplier (creekstone farms) is actually suing the USDA because they won't allow them to test all of their cattle.
Things like that, the US making WTO membership conditional on an agreement to eliminate all new member countries' previous BSE restrictions on American beef, and the recent findings of the last two cases of BSE in the US being a different strain from what's previously been seen. How come no one ever hears about this stuff?
"Creutzfeldt-Jacob disease takes a similar form in humans as BSE does in cattle. Muscle control is lost, limbs become uncontrollable, and voices become erratic and strangely pitched. A 14-year-old English girl, for example, cried for two weeks straight and then began screaming before she died."
Mercury poisoning doesn't seem all that bad now.
Legislation Designed To Apply Pressure On Japan
Jun 12, 2006 4:55 pm
As promised, Nebraska Senator Ben Nelson has introduced a bill that would ban Japanese beef imports to the U.S. until Japan lifts its ban on U.S. beef. Nelson says he realizes the bill won't cause Japan much economic harm. In fact, he says that's really the point.
Nelson says the measure is meant to apply pressure on Japan ahead of a meeting between that country's Prime Minister and President Bush later this month. Ultimately, Nelson says he's hopeful the introduction of his legislation will be enough to prompt an announcement at that time. If that happens, Nelson says the Senate won't act on his bill.
But if Japan doesn't move to re-open its market to U.S. beef, Nelson says his colleagues could seek a trade sanctions bill that goes much further than his own measure. And that's something Nelson says he opposes. He says that is a beef battle, and he wants to keep it that way. -
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Tue, June 20, 2006 - 12:29 PMsometimes ken at kiriko will serve real japanese beef. i had it recently when i had omakase there. it's a very small servering but oh so good. he just torches it a little bit to sear it. i've had horse there too which was quite good.
i thought the ban on japanese beef was actually introduced again. so lame.
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Re: Sushi in LA
Mon, December 19, 2005 - 3:12 PMOkay, two new places both in Studio City that I've been recommended:
Asanebo
Katsu-Ya (although i have to admit the idea of eating sushi in a place called "Katsu-ya" boggles the mind)
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Re: Sushi in LA- re Asanebo & Katsu-ya
Mon, December 19, 2005 - 4:51 PM
Dan:
I’ve gone to Katsu-Ya before and enjoyed the food but if I’m having sushi in Studio City it will be at Asanebo or Tama
See my other tribe sushilovers posts at:
Tama
sushilovers.tribe.net/thread/...e8d49551
Asenabo:
sushilovers.tribe.net/thread/...771ee477
sushilovers.tribe.net/thread/...bdbfcc2f
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Re: Sushi in LA- re Asanebo & Katsu-ya
Mon, December 19, 2005 - 5:00 PMWow thanks Di, I'll add Tama to the list.
ps: i love your disclaimer that you don't hang out at CityWalk all the time... yeah right! :-P
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Re: Sushi in LA- re Asanebo & Katsu-ya
Mon, December 19, 2005 - 5:22 PMI've been to Tama and that is a place worth going to. I cleared away $200 worth, last time I was there.
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Re: Sushi in LA- re Asanebo & Katsu-ya
Tue, December 20, 2005 - 6:40 PMand katsu-san is one of the most charming and sweet sushi chefs in town. it's like night and day compared to nozawa-san. -
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Re: Sushi in LA- re Asanebo & Katsu-ya
Wed, December 28, 2005 - 4:13 PMSo I didn't get a chance to go to Katsu-ya or Tama or Asenabo BUT I did go to Go's Mart again last Thursday and I noticed it was more crowded.
I love that place, the ambience and Go are so unpretentious (wish I could say the same for some of the clientele) but the food is seriously amazing, maybe one of the top 3 sushibars in California that is not omakase-only.
I also stopped by a ramen shop next to MOCA downtown/Little Tokyo called Daikoku for some black skin pork ramen which was really good but that's not sushi and was pretty cheap all things considered so I'll just leave it at that.
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